![]() Every company I worked for claims that because a PE is on staff they are at the top of their game however NICET certificants are doing the drawings. The PE acronymun is so over rated that we overlooked the big picture. RE: Should NICET Level III Designers be allowed to stamp drawings TravisMack (Mechanical) 16 Jun 10 16:08 Travis, there is FAR FAR MUCH more to the FPE exam than sprinklers. There are plenty of good FPE's out there, report the bad ones.Īlso, TravisMack said "what about having a bridge program for NICET III or IV to be able to sit for the FPE exam?" Instead of complaining about bad engineers, do something about it, report them. The mere fact that there are "bad" engineers does NOT logically follow that NICET techs should be allowed to practice engineering. Do you honestly believe that the parent sponsor group, NSPE, would allow this to happen? Can you say "pipe dream"? I do not disagree with general sentiments about "engineers" mainly because those engineers are very likely working outside their legitmate area of expertise and should be reported to their respective regulatory bodies. NICET bylaws and rules specifically state that a certificate holder is NOT an engineer. #Utah fire sprinkler design nicet requirement professional#NICET is a sub-organization of the National Society of Professional Engineers (NSPE). RE: Should NICET Level III Designers be allowed to stamp drawings NJ1 (Mechanical) Should 20+yrs on the job training and NICET IV be enough to sit for the FPE exam? I don't know? I tend to say not, but if it opened up, I would definitely try for it. I don't have all of the math to pass the FE exam. However, the EIT (or FE as it is now called) would be a major hurdle. I am confident that with some study, I could pass the FPE exam. That is outside of the scope of the NICET guidelines and into the practice of engineering.Īs a tangent, what about having a bridge program for NICET III or IV to be able to sit for the FPE exam? I have helped many colleagues with a BS in engineering study for the FPE exam. I don't get into fire behavior and/or hazard classifications, etc. However, there are many things that go into hazard analysis that I don't know if it would be wise to have NICET III+ as a professional role. ![]() If the CET has errors and omissions insurance to cover their liability, it could even be more applicable. I do think that a NICET III or higher could design a system to be compliant with the prescriptive codes and standards for most office areas, tenant improvements, schools, most retail spaces, etc. RE: Should NICET Level III Designers be allowed to stamp drawings It is a pleasure to have someone knowledgeable review my plans, when AHJs, engineers and contractors are on the same page we've found that jobs go smoother and everyone benefits. ![]() ![]() One last point, many jurisdictions do indeed have NICET qualified technicians that perform plan review for AHJs. Also working for a fire sprinkler contractor we do not want to be on the hook so to say for the responsibility of an engineer. Personally I can use several ways to find friction losses in pipes with a variety of fluids, use methods to determine how and what way to use hangers and their spacing etc however I am restricted to doing it by the book because I am a technician and that is my professional role. Technicians really shouldn't be fulfilling an engineer's role. Engineers develop design equations for technicians or design engineers to use. students must derive equations for a particular application. As a layout technician I cannot practice engineering but I can design systems per hazard classifications and specifications to be economical.Īn example would be that in a basic course of Mechanics of Materials, Fluid Mechanics, etc. An FPE would be legally responsible for establishing hazard classifications for a given occupancy. Click on the State’s name to be taken to their Requirements page.I disagree for one main reason. The NICET programs that are most commonly required by local and state jurisdictions, and by federal agencies. Because such people are valuable to employers and customers alike, certification often influences hiring, retention, promotion, and contracting decisions. The value of a NICET certification lies in what it says about the professionalism of the certification-holder. ![]()
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